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Link: canonical Link: next Link: last Link: up Link: author Logo Theme Chooser * Blue * Midnight * Green * Reddish * Grape * Brown * Black * Darkside _____________________ Search * Sign In * Register * Connect with Facebook * News * Forums * Spy * Blogs * Chat * Mail * Subscribe * Donate * Contact * Neowin Forums * Windows Add-ons, Tweaks & Themes * Customizing Windows * Community Rules * View New Content * RSS IFrame [IMG] Sponsored Link: Click here to run a free scan for System Errors and Optimize PC performance * 3 Pages + * 1 * 2 * 3 * -> * [IMG] Share [IMG] * Email * Print * Download * This topic is locked PreLuna theme Rate Topic: ----- neodescis #1 Posted 01 November 2001 - 04:28 * [IMG] * Neowinian * Icon * Group: Registered * Posts: 86 * Joined: 01-November 01 I have a really cool PreLuna theme almost done. I have the bitmaps in place. All I need is to change the system colors in the .msstyles file. I know I need to use a resource editor, but I need more specific instructions as to exactly what I need to do to export the INI files that the RGB values are in, how to edit those exported files, and how to re-import them. Thanks, Neodescis 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply Ad Bot * * We love your monies * Group: Treasury * Joined: August 2003 IFrame Register Today Osiris #2 Posted 01 November 2001 - 05:18 * [IMG] * Neowinian God! * Icon * Group: Registered * Posts: 8,514 * Joined: 31-October 01 * Location:Australia http://www.heaventools.com/ Go get PE Explorer from there it will let you modify the text files directory in the .msstlyes file. In there you will goto your theme section and editit. Basically its the script that windows runs on, you will just have to find the areas of the colours you want to change. What I did was saved it, edited it with a text file that way you can search the file, looked for the colours, changed em, and opened and saved it in the editor and it was all done. 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply neodescis #3 Posted 01 November 2001 - 14:40 * [IMG] * Neowinian * Icon * Group: Registered * Posts: 86 * Joined: 01-November 01 Sweet! I will hopefully be able to release this skin tonight! I will keep you guys posted... 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply Frogboy #4 Posted 01 November 2001 - 16:13 * [IMG] * Neowinian Senior * Icon Icon * Group: Administrator * Posts: 3,059 * Joined: 24-October 01 * Location:Michigan Bear in mind that PreLuna is an original skin created by Alexandrie (Johanne Chaine). Posting other people's works is known as "ripping" and considered extremely uncool by people in the skinning community. I happen to know she spent a lot of time coming up with that skin. Making something for your personal use is one thing but posting it for others would be very bad. 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply KnifeFace #5 Posted 01 November 2001 - 16:35 * [IMG] * dark artist * Icon * Group: Registered * Posts: 1,313 * Joined: 05-August 01 Is it just me or is Frogboy getting on everybody's nervs? 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply KaosAD #6 Posted 01 November 2001 - 17:48 * [IMG] * Neowinian Fanatic * Icon * Group: Registered * Posts: 149 * Joined: 31-October 01 No it's not just you. Sorry people, I have watched for too long now and am tired of these kind of posts. I watched one thread go from someones nice work on a skin into a battle of Stardock vs. StylesXP. Frogboy, why don't you stop posting your tripe. I am sure others would be more than glad to converse with you if you didn't come in here throwing about accusations. I think you need to listen to your own words. Do you forget the big mess at Wincustomize when the XP icon sets came out, two people in particular arguing over who created them first? Yet you never accused either of "ripping" off each other or "ripping" off Microsoft and you never intervened once. Yet you have so much work to do but yet you find the time to come here and stir the pot. Quit throwing around accusations. According to you then, Alexandrie ripped the theme from Microsoft, that's going by your definition in the other threads. Just relax and give people a chance. Your actions are no less than what a troll would be doing. Enjoy the community, converse, share thoughts but do NOT accuse people of "ripping" unless you can provide proof. Also quit being silly about the legalities of all this. Stardock does not have an exclusive on skinning, that would be the same as saying Microsoft has an exclusive on the Browser market or Office market. You can NOT stop anyone from developing utilities for enhancing the GUI. From what I have seen from your posts, it would not surprise me that Stardock already knows this because they have probably already looked into the legalities of the matter and found there is nothing they can do, hence you come in here to try to perform policing duties. Sorry if that is such a strong accusation but that is how you are coming off. Whew, now why don't you play nice and share some of your knowledge to help the COMMUNITY, isn't that what this is about??? 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply jesse #7 Posted 01 November 2001 - 17:51 * [IMG] * curiouser and curiouser * Icon * Group: Registered * Posts: 849 * Joined: 22-October 01 * Location:New York, NY yeah. relax. ;) 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply Neil Banfield #8 Posted 01 November 2001 - 18:20 * [IMG] * Neowinian * Icon * Group: Registered * Posts: 199 * Joined: 05-October 01 Quote Originally posted by KaosAD No it's not just you. Sorry people, I have watched for too long now and am tired of these kind of posts. I watched one thread go from someones nice work on a skin into a battle of Stardock vs. StylesXP. Frogboy, why don't you stop posting your tripe. I am sure others would be more than glad to converse with you if you didn't come in here throwing about accusations. I think you need to listen to your own words. Do you forget the big mess at Wincustomize when the XP icon sets came out, two people in particular arguing over who created them first? Yet you never accused either of "ripping" off each other or "ripping" off Microsoft and you never intervened once. Yet you have so much work to do but yet you find the time to come here and stir the pot. Quit throwing around accusations. According to you then, Alexandrie ripped the theme from Microsoft, that's going by your definition in the other threads. Just relax and give people a chance. Your actions are no less than what a troll would be doing. Enjoy the community, converse, share thoughts but do NOT accuse people of "ripping" unless you can provide proof. I think it will be quite easy to prove its a rip once its released. Given the name and the fact elsewhere its been refered to a port of WindowBlinds PreLuna should make it fairly clear. I should also point out that PreLuna is NOT a rip of Luna and actually looks nothing like it. (hint the Pre bit means before) Brad is here trying to prevent a problem before it gets out of hand. Some artists are VERY protective over their skins and will even resort to legal action to prevent rips. This has happened before (in that case it was Mac users over ports of K skins to WB by users) and we would rather it did not happen again! Apple are also very protective of their Aqua look and will potentially take action against skin authors, so I would suggest anyone making Aqua skins (for any app) to be careful. 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply KaosAD #9 Posted 01 November 2001 - 18:33 * [IMG] * Neowinian Fanatic * Icon * Group: Registered * Posts: 149 * Joined: 31-October 01 Neil, glad to see you here. The fact of the matter is the skin has not been released, if and when it is and it does prove to be a "rip" then by all means it is justifiable. I am not condoning "ripping", anyone that knows me I am one of the harshest when it comes to "ripping". Still the fact remains we have not seen this skin so we do not know for certain that it is a pure "rip". As far as Brad goes, I think you need to go through his posts and see how a member of your team is conducting himself. I am all too familiar with the E and Mac fiascos, again I am not condoning "ripping" at all. What my objections are is Frogboy aka Brad filling up threads with tripe. If he or yourself have thoughts or problems then post it in a thread with an appropriate title. His (frogboy) posts of late have been nothing more than Stardock propaganda and nothing less than irritating. 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply Frogboy #10 Posted 01 November 2001 - 19:28 * [IMG] * Neowinian Senior * Icon Icon * Group: Administrator * Posts: 3,059 * Joined: 24-October 01 * Location:Michigan Well let me apologize if my posts come across as "tripe" But in my defense, a cool feature for Neowin would be to let people actually see every post posted. Example here are some of my recent posts: General area: "1st computer" created by me. General conversation about what someone's first computer was. "Will peopl ever stop attacking Microsoft" just a general conversation about Microsoft. "How many people like their jobs" (topic of jobs) "I have an idea: NeoWwin mailing list" (partook in a conversation about a mailing list. "Best PC game of all time" (what was your favorite PC game) "The ULTIMATE job" (what do you think would be the best job to have?) "Enterprise: Terra Nova" (trek discussion) The post you refer to where you accuse me of turning into a flamewar was the post about Watercolor by Binary in which I merely said his skin looks cool. That's ALL I said. Then someone jumps on and asks when will WinCustomize add a section for it. I explained why and THEN it turned into a flame war. Skin names tend to be pretty unique and PreLuna is a VERY well known WindowBlinds skin. It is not taking a leap of faith to say that this skin is probably based on it. I didn't attack him and I felt my post was polite. And if you think you're getting irritated with me, then put me in your ignore post. How do you think I feel? I can't even compliment a skin without someone turning it into a flame war. If I point out that ripping is bad, I get flamed. If you see something I'm posting at Stardock propaganda, then call me on it. Say "Hey, that's Stardock propaganda". 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply KaosAD #11 Posted 01 November 2001 - 20:03 * [IMG] * Neowinian Fanatic * Icon * Group: Registered * Posts: 149 * Joined: 31-October 01 Quote And if you think you're getting irritated with me, then put me in your ignore post. No, I will not, you can do better than that. I never put any one on ignore. I know you are above this and can produce quality posts. Quote Then someone jumps on and asks when will WinCustomize add a section for it. I explained why and THEN it turned into a flame war. Quote If you see something I'm posting at Stardock propaganda, then call me on it. Say "Hey, that's Stardock propaganda". You need to step back and look at what you are doing. You said it yourself, if you are truly a business man then you must have deduced by know that this kind of reaction can not be good for business. I understand Stardock's concern. They have been developing a program for what seems to be ages now and then all of a sudden Microsoft comes out with their own engine. The neat thing about it is there doesn't have to be an exclusion list for applications to use the Microsoft skinning engine. That's one reason why I always uninstalled WindowBlinds, I would have to exclude half of my applications. I am not trying to slam Stardock, on the contrary, you guys did a wonderful job with what you had to build on. Now Microsoft has built a solid themeing engine and then only lets Stardock build "on to it" in essence. So I understand your concern but I just ask that if you are drawn into a "flame war" that you think about your current and potential customers that you may be driving away. I for one may use other Stardock products in the future due to Neil and how he handles matters. Professional conduct is a top priority in successful businesses. 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply Frogboy #12 Posted 01 November 2001 - 20:15 * [IMG] * Neowinian Senior * Icon Icon * Group: Administrator * Posts: 3,059 * Joined: 24-October 01 * Location:Michigan I agree with you that perception is reality - if people perceive my posts as being some sort of cheesy business tactic then that's bad. But at the same time, users should be forthright. I type long posts, but that doesn't make them tripe. If I'm posting "propaganda" then just call me on it. Say so in the post. I can't think of any posts on here that could be considered propaganda. Saying that ripping is bad is not propaganda. Similarly, telling people that looting is wrong is not propaganda. Look at this post from a new perspective, if you didn't know me or what my day job was, you may have agreed with my post. 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply KaosAD #13 Posted 01 November 2001 - 20:40 * [IMG] * Neowinian Fanatic * Icon * Group: Registered * Posts: 149 * Joined: 31-October 01 Evidently I must not be getting my point across, because here you are, yet again. It's your place to be "forthright" but not opinionated. You are a business man, albeit a poor one. I am not going to squander any more of my time on this, you have spoken mountains of information for me. I was searching all your posts to quote you on this, then I realized you were leading me the same way you led others. I DO NOT have to call you on anything "I am a customer!". I suppose it is best if I put you on ignore. I was just trying to point out the position you are putting Stardock in. I retract my statement about purchasing future Stardock products. You have lost a customer. By the way, you never know who is on the receiving end of your comments and who they may work for. Have a good day gentlemen. 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply brendl #14 Posted 01 November 2001 - 20:50 * [IMG] * Neowinian * Icon * Group: Banned * Posts: 76 * Joined: 16-July 01 whats your problem, when brad opens his mouth he is usually saying something logical and that makes sense. He pointed out that someone was working on a rip, and you guys attack him. If you dont like Wb, dont blame him, it makes you seem really stupid when you attack an intelligent opinion. * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply Frogboy #15 Posted 01 November 2001 - 21:15 * [IMG] * Neowinian Senior * Icon Icon * Group: Administrator * Posts: 3,059 * Joined: 24-October 01 * Location:Michigan Kaos - that's like saying I won't ever buy anything from whoever employs you. I'm not allowed to have a life outside of work? What does saying rips are bad have to do with Stardock? I pointed out that most of my posts on Neowin are not even remotely related to my day job and you attack me. Great. 0 * Top * Reply Icon MultiQuote * Reply Icon Reply * 3 Pages + * 1 * 2 * 3 * -> * This topic is locked Search Topic _____________________ [ Go ] [_______________________________________________] [ Go ] <- Previous Topic . Customizing Windows . Next Topic -> Remove this Ad by creating a Free Account IFrame * News * Forums * Blogs * Chat * Live * Mail * About Us * Privacy Statement * Advertising * Jobs * Contact Us All trademarks mentioned on this page are the property of their respective owners. Atlas Theme v6.0 (c) 2010 Neowin.net, Since 2000 . Credits.