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Warn 5687 questions IH8MUD on Password ___________ [ Log Facebook in ] Garage Garage Vendors Garages Clubs Browse by Vendors Username Clubs Display Browse ~ Register Display by Map Alphanumerically Recently Today's Mark Here ~ Display by Name Display by Location Added FAQ Calendar Search Posts Forums Display by Display by Map Browse Read State/Province Register your Recently Register your Club Company Modified Help Help Browse Most Popular Advanced Search Help ____________________________________ [ 'MUDSearch ] _____________________ [ Go ] [IMG] Winching and Recovery Tech related to winches, recovery gear, jacks, OBA and other trail related equipment Reply LinkBack (3) Thread Tools Display Modes Old 11-15-10, 03:40 PM 3 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 Brother Warn 5687 questions Rookie --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Join Date: Nov 2010 I'm new to electric winches, having PTO's in the past. Is there a quick way to make Posts: 7 some connections for electrical to test and see if it works? Assuming it works, it appears that it can only be used from the outside by standing directly at the winch itself? Has anyone designed a cable to operate the brake from inside and to run power through a solenoid/rocker/toggle switch which can also be run from inside? Or, is the building of a remote switch best suited for this winch? Thanks for any help Brother is offline Reply With Quote Old 11-16-10, 02:44 PM #2 [IMG]77TLCFJ40 Never heard of a 5687. Do you mean 8274? Forum Lifer __________________ Lash CottonLand Cruisers Treasurer 77TLCFJ40's Avatar TLCA: 13533 Madison, MS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madison, MS 77 FJ40 "GunRunner": DUI, RDB, 4Runner Calipers, York/Mudrak OBA, Aussie, 8274, Posts: 3,104 Saginaw PS, Hell Creek Lift, 94" WB, 35x12.50 Hankook MTs, MAF U-Bolt Flips, F-250 Towers, MetalTech Cage, Choctaw Sliders, IPOR Skid, 8" Tuffy, Tiburon Seats... and a great group of friends who make it possible! 78 Hilux Trailer - FOR SALE! 08 200 Series Tow Rig Kaizen - Continuous Improvement 77TLCFJ40 is online now Reply With Quote Sponsor 11-16-10, 06:29 PM Sponsored Link advertisement Old 11-16-10, 06:29 PM #3 45Kevin Looks like that winch does not have a remote option. You could test it with jumper 250+ Club cables. It was discontinued in the early 70's I think. __________________ 1978 FJ45 - 2nd owner and I wheel it 45Kevin's Avatar 1994 4Rnr - sold Join Date: May 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 786 45Kevin is online now Reply With Quote Old 11-16-10, 08:14 PM #4 Brother The 5687 is the predecessor to the 8274. The archaic braking system is the only Rookie drawback to this winch that I can see, and I intend to fab a cable disc brake and lose the stock system. I used jumper cables and found the motor to work the reel in fine, but with some Join Date: Nov 2010 noise. I'm in the process of dismantling it to check for any inner problems. Posts: 7 Thanks to those who have linked schematics for this winch. Am still interested in wiring schematic for a good solenoid switch and which solenoid is most preferred too would help. Thanks Brother is offline Reply With Quote Old 11-17-10, 09:40 PM #5 [IMG]80t0ylc Whoa, brother. The brake system on a winch is not a thing you want to experiment Hill & Gully Rider on if you're new to electrics. I think Warn went away from these winches for a reason. Not to mention the fact that they don't power out. I'd see if I could find a good used 8274 and rebuild it. Just an opinion. 80t0ylc's Avatar __________________ Tom Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canyon City, OR '94 FZJ80; '81 Mini 4x4 long bed --- GDT tire thread --- Central Oregon Cruisers Posts: 1,585 --- TLCA#20447 Garage 80t0ylc's Garage [IMG] Dad's Landcruiser [IMG] Something Tough, Light & Simple 80t0ylc is offline Reply With Quote Old 11-24-10, 12:21 AM #6 Brother Here in the Pacific NW I've used a winch for over 29 years. This one being my first Rookie electric. yea, it's old school but it will suit my needs just fine. Dragging out the occasion log for firewood, pulling someone out of a bind and maybe even getting myself unstuck. If I can't climb it, I certainly aren't planning on winching up it. Join Date: Nov 2010 Anyway, I've done a couple of hours researching parts for this thing and am ready to Posts: 7 rebuild it. The internals weren't too bad save for some hard case missing on a few gear teeth from the water that was sitting inside. All of the bearings and seals are still available. Snap rings too obviously. About the brake...the way this is currently set up reminds me of the 1935 Plymouth coupe I had with a driveline emergency brake set up. Forget to release it and drive off and next thing you know there's a fire going on underneath your car. I know apples and oranges. Thing is, there are far superior cable operated disc braking technologies out there and no reason why one couldn't be adapted to this drum. Brother is offline Reply With Quote Old 12-21-10, 01:11 PM #7 [IMG]80t0ylc My biggest concern would be safety while winching. Most current electric winches Hill & Gully Rider are designed to apply the brake automatically when the drive (in or out) is off. This will generally hold you in place while on a hill when you release the switch. I don't know how this is handled with a PTO, but you mention you're new to 80t0ylc's Avatar electrics. So, I just wanted to emphasize how important the brake can be while winching, especially if you find yourself alone and in a situation where you need Join Date: Sep 2008 to use the winch. IMHO, if you can't trust the brake on a winch, it makes it Location: Canyon City, OR unsafe to use. And when mistakes, while using a winch, can be a life changing or Posts: 1,585 life ending event, it should give you pause to think. Garage __________________ Tom 80t0ylc's Garage [IMG] Dad's '94 FZJ80; '81 Mini 4x4 long bed --- GDT tire thread --- Central Oregon Cruisers Landcruiser --- TLCA#20447 [IMG] Something Tough, Light & Simple 80t0ylc is offline Reply With Quote Old 12-23-10, 08:53 AM #8 KonTiki The brake on my 8274 hasn't worked since Ive had it. Its an inconvenience Forum Regular occasionally, and I'll be fixing it when I get the funds, but its nothing someone with experience cant handle. The gear is always engaged to the motor, so the line doesnt suddenly go slack. It will simply turn the motor slowly and freewheel back to KonTiki's Avatar a lesser tension. Join Date: Mar 2010 I think the cable operated brake is a great idea, be sure and post up pics when you Location: Gulf Coast work something out! Posts: 152 KonTiki is offline Reply With Quote Old 12-28-10, 11:10 PM Sponsored Link advertisement Old 12-28-10, 11:10 PM #9 craptabulous a lot of winches don't have brakes , its not a big deal . you shouldn't rely on a 250+ Club winch brake to much anyway . __________________ 74 Fj40-350,sm420,60 series axles,36.5 swampers, aussie locked, saginaw. craptabulous's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: princeton B.C Posts: 493 Garage craptabulous's Garage [IMG] Beastly craptabulous is offline Reply With Quote Reply Tweet Share IFrame << Previous Thread | Next Thread >> Thread Tools Show Printable Version Show Printable Version Email this Page Email this Page Display Modes Linear Mode Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Threaded Mode Switch to Threaded Mode [IMG] Posting Rules You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts -------------------------- BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On HTML code is Off Trackbacks are On Pingbacks are On Refbacks are On -------------------------- Forum Rules [IMG] LinkBacks (?) 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